rangervoong (January 8th, 2009 @ 12:33 am)

I rarely reply to videos unless they really piss me off, before I start I would like to say that I'm not criticising the uploader but the content and the women in that vid. I study in England, thank goodness not in America. I just wanted to say that video basically shows how stupid the teaching is. As a child I was encouraged to learn off by heart the times tables up to 12x12 at an early age below 10. the only way to multiply is the first method shown in the video

thewritepassion (January 7th, 2009 @ 10:30 pm)

Bravo!

ZeCoolio (January 6th, 2009 @ 11:55 pm)

the only thing that kinda makes sense is cluster multiplication, but only in later years after you know normal (the international common one) multiplication

ZeCoolio (January 6th, 2009 @ 11:45 pm)

The idea is that if you learn it as a young kid you can skip writing it all and it actually becomes faster. I didn't learn this way but this is what I do most of the time, but in my head.

Validole (January 6th, 2009 @ 6:08 pm)

Well, I wish I could say more than sucks to be American right now. By the way: Standard algorithm is good on paper, but if you have to divide large integers without a pen or a calc, then the Cluster(fuck) division is a good method, cause you only really have to memorize three numbers throughout the whole process. We weren't allowed to use calculators 'till 7-th grade. Meaning, I rarely use it for everyday math now. Only some trigonometry and floating point goes through the calculator.

Wwallace67 (January 6th, 2009 @ 4:59 pm)

Sadly, the foolish new new math has crept in through misguided researchers who do research published in peer reviewed journals lending the air of scientific objectivity to subjectively measured results. Specifically, the research is usually shoddy, subject to confirmation bias. It is hardly ever double blind (the teacher/researcher knows in advnace what she is doing, and often has an idea about what result she wants).

bits010101 (January 6th, 2009 @ 9:52 am)

another challenge might be to find out how those books crept into the "landscape" of teaching materials, there had to be some kind of initiative that allowed it, maybe some big contract that didn't factor in that children were actually going to try and learn stuff from them. And I think in any district where math was taught in this manner, there should be a free public "re-education" program for any person who may struggle with basic mathematics, because quite frankly they were robbed

Wwallace67 (January 6th, 2009 @ 4:47 am)

Outstanding video, thanks for taking the time to put this together. Too many parents are unaware of the dire consequences of these new fads in teaching math.

150133 (January 6th, 2009 @ 3:45 am)

whut the hell is this?

rmkNJ201 (January 5th, 2009 @ 5:44 am)

Someone give me a rotten tomato to throw? This is jiberish, haha

Liz0A (January 4th, 2009 @ 10:41 pm)

Also, I wasn't even allowed to LOOK at a calculator until secondary school!

Liz0A (January 4th, 2009 @ 10:37 pm)

Where I live, I learnt the 'Standard Algorithm', then the 'Cluster Method' a couple of years later. We also dipped into 'Partial Products' a bit, but most emphasis has always been on the 'Standard Algorithm'. Never heard of the 'Lattice Method'. Only ever used the 'Standard Algorithm' for division, though. I dunno if it's just because I've never encountered it before, but I find the cluster method MUCH more complicated, and I'm sure I'd have wasted much more 'precious class time' on it.